Comments on: Religion is a Lie!

By: Michele

Michele — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:09:51 +0000

What particularly irks me about religion is is promotion of the abdication of the concept of personal responsibility. Many years ago (and possibly still today), truck drivers in Turkey would paint “God’s will” on their front bumpers. Meaning that if they ran you over, it wasn’t their fault, it was God’s will.

It’s like that everywhere. If something bad happens, then “God must have a plan that we just can’t see”. If you pray real hard before a dangerous surgery and come through OK, then the credit goes to God, not the surgeon. This type of thinking completely robs life of any real meaning. Why ever bother trying to do anything if it’s all up to God in the end?

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:04:56 +0000

Lets get some facts staright -

For the purpose of this comment – assume that the word God is not associated with Jesus a religion, or organized group commonly known as a religion.

1. Christianity is a complete plagiarism of the story of Horas written 3000BC
2. Christianity proselytizes that a man named Jesus is God

These two issues alone define why religion is absurd and antiquated. When defending religion, many Christians will simply quote Jesus from the bible. Jesus says…

I suppose they don’t realize that there are no less than 138 religions that exist or existed prior to Christianity that first reported claims of resurection, virgin births, great flood, and miracles.

In short – All religions, including the second most fashionable one of the day (christianity) are nothing less than an antiquated form of government. I do not find discourse with people of religion, but rather I pity them. I pity them for their lack of education about history which has allowed them to enslave themselves through ignorance and fear.

A simply astronomy lesson would open the eyes of many. Religions began as allegory taught to children to educate them to astronomy for the purpose of agriculture and social harmony.

It amazes me that in the year 2011, a large portion of human beings are more ignorant than a child who lived 3000 years ago.

By: Robert Von

Robert Von — Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:52:41 +0000

Organized religion is the root of all evil, if you believe otherwise you’re wrong.

By: Blasphemy is a Victimless Crime

Blasphemy is a Victimless Crime — Sat, 03 Jul 2010 12:06:16 +0000

Thank god I’m an atheist.

By: Milagro Brusseau

Milagro Brusseau — Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:39:13 +0000

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By: i have the faith

i have the faith — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 02:01:04 +0000

Oh shutup all you people that believe in God. Believe in Science. Case closed. A guy gets murdered on the street with a gun, its just the same as an ant being stepped on by a human. Just different species, one case is more tragic than the other, however this is only human emotion coming in to play. And as for the previous comment by ‘D’ : you said this:
‘science is making progress but, again, it will never be able to explain the universe which is infinite’.
NEVER is a pretty strong word you have there, you obviously dont have the same thought process as an engineer or scientist. We are only limited by the extinction date of the human race. If we ever become extinct. Think about this D: what has Science achieved in the past 200 years? Ok, now think about Isaac Newton and his explanation of gravity. 200 years prior to this, some moron said that it would NEVER be explained. You are that nieve moron. Do you honestly believe that scientific discoveries will just reach some plateau and remain stagnant? Oh please. Time to face the facts. Your airy-fairy comment nearly made me spew. Go back to school and actually study something of importance. I’m an electrical power engineer. and yes im smart. you make no sense. I have a solution to save humanity (or at least come quite close): all you religious freaks drop the Bible, Koran etc – and pick up a f%*#ing science book. take all the resources from the Church and give them to scientists. Large Hadron Collider comes to mind. Remove all religious politicians from office. Replace with Engineers and Scientists, pretty much all the people that politicians turn to, to solve their problems. Turn every church into a Science discovery centre for children. Get them excited about science. not some old man claiming to be the creator of the universe. I’ve said my piece. And in case of anyone’s rebuttal? f&*k off. you dont know what youre talking about

By: D

Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:16:44 +0000

Interesting subject and comments. Succinctly, here’s my view in reply:
- what gets muddled up in this conversation is the academic concern about defining religion mixed up with the practical aspect of religion in the form of commune and mostly individual relationship with the supreme unknown conventionally called God
- some people can’t see Jesus/God other than the guy in charge that has obligations towards humanity in exchange for being good- pretty much a Santa Clause. So they get upset with God when he does not keep his part of the bargain and take their toys elsewhere.
- some others want proof in order to believe- Hello! this is a matter of common sense: proof needs observation/measurement through the means of senses- no need for faith here. Descartes says “I believe because is absurd”= one only can believe what is beyond logic and reason. All the rest falls within the sphere of observation.
- there’s also a distinction between the traditional God of the culture I belong to and my personal God to which I’m praying. The former is part of a social system while the latter is my personal hope and consolation. The former needs things done for him while the latter does not need a thing- it only offers solace and comfort when you need it. One may be suppressive while the other is the liberator.
- faith is about life not about death and afterlife. Belief is a tool that sustains you in time of need when body and mind fail to serve you any longer. Drugs and alcohol have side effects the main one being dependency and death. They are stuff to procure and get into the body; they bind you rather than offering freedom. Faith comes from within and offer liberation of fears and dissatisfactions. Both methods may be lies but whereas one is destructive, the other is setting your life on track, gives a system of values to live through and provides order in chaos. Choose your fairy tale!
- a full belly and all the comforts of the western society will not lead towards finding God
- science is making progress but, again, it will never be able to explain the universe which is infinite. There’s always room for faith/religion to complement it. Belief in God is acknowledgement of one’s limitations in knowing the world through senses and the power of reason.
-truth is revealed to those ready to receive it. You can ask for it but your expectations to receive it are vain if not prepared to become the receptacle, i.e. you can’t be a couch potato pushing buttons on the remote expecting to receive answers. By the way- what exactly is the truth Rochelle seeks? Truth about what? There’s no such a thing but truths about certain subjects of interest. The whim of satisfying curiosities is not fulfilled by faith/religion, i.e. don’t expect to have the lottery winning numbers revealed to you in exchange of 100 days of fasting! The truth is revealed to those dedicated to a way of life and not to those who want to achieve worldly benefits from using the knowledge. Faith has nothing to do with human speculations meant to satisfy greed for stuff…

By: Zack

Zack — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:02:27 +0000

So people have a bad taste of religion in their mouths which seems to be the motivation behind these two young people saying that it is about “relationship” and not “religion”. Unfortunately “religion” has become a dirty word in our society because of the abuses seen by those outside the church realm. You have priests molesting kids and so called ministers scamming people out of money, it’s no wonder that people have a hard time with the organized church in itself.
This all begs the question, what is out there? I mean, those who are atheist claim that nature is what has come along and created and sustained this life that we now live. It still does not answer the “Why” question that is out there. I guess some would argue that it doesn’t matter what is out there, or why we are here. Even if evolution is our process of being, how and when did “religion” get caught up in the mix? If we are purely natural beings and created members of evolution, who came up with the God discussion long ago. How did that even enter the pre-historic beast’s mentalities? Why is it still so tied to us as humans?
For me this is the start. I can look at the evidence presented with naturalism and come to a place where I’m not ready to throw religion out the window. From an atheistic point of view you’re asking me to buy into a system of belief without a meaning or purpose to myself and the world around me. I don’t buy that. God has been an important figure throughout the history of man and our answer isn’t because “we didn’t know what we know now”. That doesn’t settle it for me.
At the end of the day I find more comfort in feeling better about Atheist being right and me being wrong. What does that mean? I have confidence in what I believe, but if I die and I’m wrong, big deal. On the other hand, the atheist has a lot to lose when they find out in the end, that Jesus guy; He did have the answers to our “Whys”.

By: JAZ

JAZ — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:17:33 +0000

So you know my religious background, I am baptized, had communion and confirmed. Was I forced to be Baptized? Nope. Was I forced to make Communion, in a way, but yet to young to realize. Was I forced to be confirmed OH BOY! Yes! I come from a Stereotypical Italian based family structure/Catholic/Presbyterian/Lutheran Background, basically the same beliefs just a little skewed over many years/yeah the reformation! That’s another conversation.
My opinion, if you want to believe that everything unexplained is an act of a “Super Being”, I will respect you, I will in no way try to change your mind, basically don’t want to argue. Sorry that has been my experience.
But if you believe in the now and expect a livable future. Then religion is not the answer.
If all human beings on this planet started to believe that anything and everything was given to us by the love of a “Super Being”, then why go to work everyday, why not just walk around and speak scripture all day. God, “Super Being” or whomever at that date is popular will provide, doesn’t the Bible, Torah and Koran say this or am I mistaken? Is not a huge deal given about (using the bible here) Jesus in the desert going against the devil and how he survived and oh yeah the fish story.
Maybe I am off base here, but back then is no different then today.
We just have allot more neat toys!
Yes maybe Jesus or whomever made a huge impact on society today that’s a fact (truly respect him for that, good for him!). But so did Buddha, Mohamed, Moses, John the Baptist, Martin Luther, a legion of Saints, Kings, Prophets and Martyred ones. The list is so long, it is like reading a roll call at a Bergen County, New Jersey High School when all home rooms have been discontinued and attendance will be counted in the gym.

Sorry, I just don’t get it. I want to understand but it is so hard to believe when there is no tangible evidence that this “super being” will provide.
Example: When I am walking down the street in NYC around 178th and up, is it that this “Super Being” forgot all the homeless and hungry. Or is it that they are all sinners. This completely unbelievable. To explain; the people who blow themselves up because of religion killing hundreds of innocent people somehow are better then the 40 year old guy who is sitting at the corner on 178th and Amsterdam NYC begging for dimes and pennies.. who lost his job and living because his it was taken from him due to the economy and no one is hiring. Don’t give the McDonalds theory, they don’t hire 40 year old guys without a home. Better to pay an 18 year old on drugs with a home then the guy with the long beard because he can’t afford a razor.
Just answer me these few questions and maybe, just maybe I will start to listen and might start to believe. But so far, not on my list of things to do in the day.
Mind you I do know Churches, Synagogue and Mosks due provide shelter, I Commend them for this, Awesome and they should do it according to their beliefs!! But why should they when the “Super Being” they are all praying too should be doing all the heavy lifting for the forgotten ones. Maybe this is a little too blatant for this blog post, but I truly want to understand. Not in a spiritual way, but in a factual way. That’s all.

By: Sara

Sara — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:03:26 +0000

Hey Justin,

The info above came from religionisalie.com. We were given cards with that info when we met members of the group in person, but all of what they handed out is also available on their website. I have not been to their site in over a year, so I’m not sure if any part of their message has changed.