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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticalmonkey.com/unanswered-school-prayers/comment-page-1#comment-1169</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fauxgt4, you&#039;re missing the point.

The original e-mail featured in the article blamed the secularization of schools for violence and school shootings. In other words, if only all these kids were exposed to more religion/prayer/ godly morals, etc, these horrific acts of violence may not have taken place. 

The purpose of my article was not to BLAME Christianity for any act of violence, but simply to point out that exposure to Christianity and religion is no guarantee that violence won&#039;t take place...and that the removal of prayer from schools was certainly not to blame for recent school shootings.

In the case of the Amish school shooting, we have a gunman who grew up in a deeply-religious area. And if the gunman was &quot;angry at god,&quot; he clearly was no non-religious atheist. He must have had some god belief, although many would call it a twisted one. Obviously, this was a man who had PLENTY of exposure to Christianity, prayer, and religious morals growing up--and it didn&#039;t stop him from committing a a terrible act of violence against those young girls.  

So, if anyone wants to claim that prayer in schools will stop the violence--well, the Amish school shooting would seem to be one argument against that. And that&#039;s why I included it.

ANd, on a slightly different note, I disagree with your assertion that this school shooting was necessarily a hate crime against Christians. This was a case of a sick man taking out his anger on young girls. The man had been raised a CHristian, believed in the Christian god, and somehow believed that he could get even with god by attacking other Christians. 

To me, a similar situation would be if a gay man, angry that he was gay, attacked and killed other gay men to make himself feel better. Not sure I&#039;d call that a hate crime...a sick, twisted tragedy, yes, but not a hate crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fauxgt4, you&#8217;re missing the point.</p>
<p>The original e-mail featured in the article blamed the secularization of schools for violence and school shootings. In other words, if only all these kids were exposed to more religion/prayer/ godly morals, etc, these horrific acts of violence may not have taken place. </p>
<p>The purpose of my article was not to BLAME Christianity for any act of violence, but simply to point out that exposure to Christianity and religion is no guarantee that violence won&#8217;t take place&#8230;and that the removal of prayer from schools was certainly not to blame for recent school shootings.</p>
<p>In the case of the Amish school shooting, we have a gunman who grew up in a deeply-religious area. And if the gunman was &#8220;angry at god,&#8221; he clearly was no non-religious atheist. He must have had some god belief, although many would call it a twisted one. Obviously, this was a man who had PLENTY of exposure to Christianity, prayer, and religious morals growing up&#8211;and it didn&#8217;t stop him from committing a a terrible act of violence against those young girls.  </p>
<p>So, if anyone wants to claim that prayer in schools will stop the violence&#8211;well, the Amish school shooting would seem to be one argument against that. And that&#8217;s why I included it.</p>
<p>ANd, on a slightly different note, I disagree with your assertion that this school shooting was necessarily a hate crime against Christians. This was a case of a sick man taking out his anger on young girls. The man had been raised a CHristian, believed in the Christian god, and somehow believed that he could get even with god by attacking other Christians. </p>
<p>To me, a similar situation would be if a gay man, angry that he was gay, attacked and killed other gay men to make himself feel better. Not sure I&#8217;d call that a hate crime&#8230;a sick, twisted tragedy, yes, but not a hate crime.</p>
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		<title>By: fauxgt4</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticalmonkey.com/unanswered-school-prayers/comment-page-1#comment-1167</link>
		<dc:creator>fauxgt4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 00:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure how good of an idea it is to use the Georgetown Amish School Shooting as an example.

The shooter, before opening fire with a shotgun on 6-13 year old girls said &quot;I&#039;m angry at god and I need to punish some Christian girls to get even with him.&quot;. 

Just not sure how a hate crime against Christians is Christianity&#039;s fault... you might want to stick to other examples. 

That would be like saying its homosexuals fault that hate crimes are committed against them, or that its black peoples fault that they were enslaved. Its just crazy. 

Anyways. I know this is an old post. I just ran across it doing research for a hate-crimes class I&#039;m taking right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how good of an idea it is to use the Georgetown Amish School Shooting as an example.</p>
<p>The shooter, before opening fire with a shotgun on 6-13 year old girls said &#8220;I&#8217;m angry at god and I need to punish some Christian girls to get even with him.&#8221;. </p>
<p>Just not sure how a hate crime against Christians is Christianity&#8217;s fault&#8230; you might want to stick to other examples. </p>
<p>That would be like saying its homosexuals fault that hate crimes are committed against them, or that its black peoples fault that they were enslaved. Its just crazy. </p>
<p>Anyways. I know this is an old post. I just ran across it doing research for a hate-crimes class I&#8217;m taking right now.</p>
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		<title>By: prayer in school</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticalmonkey.com/unanswered-school-prayers/comment-page-1#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>prayer in school</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 01:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] directly religion. Theists must stop capitalizing on these tragedies by pushing their own agendas.http://www.skepticalmonkey.com/christian-bible/unanswered-school-prayers/Partners in Prayer for SchoolsPartners in prayer for Schools - Cover Our Nation&amp;39s Schools In [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] directly religion. Theists must stop capitalizing on these tragedies by pushing their own agendas.<a href="http://www.skepticalmonkey.com/christian-bible/unanswered-school-prayers/Partners" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepticalmonkey.com/christian-bible/unanswered-school-prayers/Partners</a> in Prayer for SchoolsPartners in prayer for Schools &#8211; Cover Our Nation&#38;39s Schools In [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Monkey</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticalmonkey.com/unanswered-school-prayers/comment-page-1#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>The Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or maybe God chose not to help this person because it was His will. I hear responses like this often.

GodInImaginary.com ran a video the explained how prayer has three possible responses to the prayer: Yes, No, and Wait. Perhaps the answer in this case was No. But who can tell; those three possibilities cover every single scenario.

For me, it&#039;s easy to relate &#039;successful prayers&#039; to coincidence, or something with a high probability of happening anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or maybe God chose not to help this person because it was His will. I hear responses like this often.</p>
<p>GodInImaginary.com ran a video the explained how prayer has three possible responses to the prayer: Yes, No, and Wait. Perhaps the answer in this case was No. But who can tell; those three possibilities cover every single scenario.</p>
<p>For me, it&#8217;s easy to relate &#8216;successful prayers&#8217; to coincidence, or something with a high probability of happening anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: MeMees</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticalmonkey.com/unanswered-school-prayers/comment-page-1#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>MeMees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only believe god has no real power, but a big bark
or I can believe god has some power, a small bark
or all power and no sound.

It seems to me , god cant have any power, after multiple chances to save lives, he complains humans didn&#039;t&quot; let him&quot;. BS, Or maybe, god cant help when your life is on the line. Either way, nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only believe god has no real power, but a big bark<br />
or I can believe god has some power, a small bark<br />
or all power and no sound.</p>
<p>It seems to me , god cant have any power, after multiple chances to save lives, he complains humans didn&#8217;t&#8221; let him&#8221;. BS, Or maybe, god cant help when your life is on the line. Either way, nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: University Update - Virginia Tech - Unanswered: School Prayers</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticalmonkey.com/unanswered-school-prayers/comment-page-1#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>University Update - Virginia Tech - Unanswered: School Prayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Forest University                           Unanswered: School Prayers &#187;  This Summary is from an article posted at Skeptical Monkey on Tuesday, February 19, 2008    [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Forest University                           Unanswered: School Prayers &#187;  This Summary is from an article posted at Skeptical Monkey on Tuesday, February 19, 2008    [...]</p>
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